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RC Modeli => MultiRotor => Topic started by: BPatrik on July 05, 2015, 04:15:07 pm

Title: Apm 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: BPatrik on July 05, 2015, 04:15:07 pm
Razmišljam koji kontroler kupiti i tako sam naišao na ovo pa imam pitanje da li se to isplati opće kupiti i je li to radi.


Link:
                            http://www.ebay.com/itm/161301598529 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161301598529)


                                        ili ovo


                            http://www.ebay.com/itm/161301585666 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161301585666)
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: SparroW12 on July 05, 2015, 06:02:55 pm
Kolega to ti je najbolji kontroler koji mozes dobiti za te novce. Jedan upravo instalirao, prezadovoljan sam. Toplo preporucam.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on July 05, 2015, 06:05:25 pm
A jesi razmislio o ovome?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/APM-2-8-APM2-8-Flight-Controller-Board-For-Multicopter-ARDUPILOT-MEGA-/231573760939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35eadf2bab (http://www.ebay.com/itm/APM-2-8-APM2-8-Flight-Controller-Board-For-Multicopter-ARDUPILOT-MEGA-/231573760939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35eadf2bab)


Plus taj gps ne znam bas...ja bi posebno uzeo gps a posebno kontroller
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: grofzg on July 05, 2015, 06:16:21 pm
Bolje uloziti malo vise u drugi GPS,  nešto tipa neo8 ili barem neo7
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on July 05, 2015, 06:21:11 pm
Ajde na ublox LEA 6H
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: BPatrik on July 05, 2015, 06:39:57 pm
Možda ovaj gps
http://m.ebay.com/itm/131510364750?nav=SEARCH

Poslano sa mog ZP998 koristeći Tapatalk

Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on July 05, 2015, 06:50:20 pm
http://ecosynth.org/forum/topics/most-accurate-gps-for-arducopter (http://ecosynth.org/forum/topics/most-accurate-gps-for-arducopter)
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: BPatrik on July 05, 2015, 08:20:25 pm
Možda ovo:


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/APM-2-8-Flight-Controller-NEO-M8N-GPS-5V-3A-Power-Module-GPS-Support-se-/161703923673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a64e0fd9 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/APM-2-8-Flight-Controller-NEO-M8N-GPS-5V-3A-Power-Module-GPS-Support-se-/161703923673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a64e0fd9)
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on July 05, 2015, 11:35:24 pm
Hm zanimljiv je taj Neo m8n prema ovome
http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/article_info.php?articles_id=472 (http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/article_info.php?articles_id=472)
ima bolju preciznost od Le-e 6h
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: BPatrik on July 06, 2015, 10:27:15 am
Je li taj gps neo m8n paše na ardupilot amp 2.6 ili amp 2.8 ili na obadva.

Poslano sa mog ZP998 koristeći Tapatalk

Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: krasny on July 06, 2015, 02:36:34 pm
Paše,meni radi i na 2.6 i 2.8!
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on July 06, 2015, 05:30:03 pm
Jel ima koje druge značajne razlike izmedju 2.8 i 2.6 osim sto 2.8 treba vanjski kompas?
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: SparroW12 on July 06, 2015, 08:05:48 pm
Mislim da 2.6 isto ima vanjski kompas.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: wirevt on July 06, 2015, 11:55:03 pm
Ja imam 2.6 i moja nema ugrađeni kompas. Koliko mi je poznato zadnja verzija sa kompasom je bila 2.5,, sve verzije poslije zahtjevaju vanjski.
Ima na HK video koja je razlika između 2.7 i 2.6,,, mislim da je glavna promjena zamjena 3,3V regulatora sa nekim "pouzdanijim", te neki kozmetički zahvati.

Uzmi bilo koji APM ver. 2.6 pa nadalje i nećeš požaliti. Možda čak i ovaj novi redizajn, MiniPro,,, lakši je i manji.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on August 09, 2015, 02:26:19 pm
Narucujem Ublox neo m8n dal da kupim ovaj sa rctimera ili sa ebay-a ovaj
http://www.rctimer.com/product-1287.html (http://www.rctimer.com/product-1287.html)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ublox-NEO-M8N-GPS-Module-W-Compass-GPS-Holder-Bracket-For-APM2-6-PIXHawk-Black-/121538413608?hash=item1c4c410428 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ublox-NEO-M8N-GPS-Module-W-Compass-GPS-Holder-Bracket-For-APM2-6-PIXHawk-Black-/121538413608?hash=item1c4c410428)
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: vedronebo on August 09, 2015, 05:22:51 pm
Narucujem Ublox neo m8n dal da kupim ovaj sa rctimera ili sa ebay-a ovaj
http://www.rctimer.com/product-1287.html (http://www.rctimer.com/product-1287.html)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ublox-NEO-M8N-GPS-Module-W-Compass-GPS-Holder-Bracket-For-APM2-6-PIXHawk-Black-/121538413608?hash=item1c4c410428 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ublox-NEO-M8N-GPS-Module-W-Compass-GPS-Holder-Bracket-For-APM2-6-PIXHawk-Black-/121538413608?hash=item1c4c410428)

Nikako kupovati ovaj sa eBay-a(!). Razlika je osim u cijeni (okay, ovaj sa Rctimera je skuplji) u tome što je antena montirana onako kako treba - po preporuci proizvođača Ublox čipa. Dok je ovaj na eBayu pogrešno montiran na premalu podlogu (groud plane) i prijem nije dobar. Razlike su očite kad je oblačno i u nekim drugim situacijama - jednostavno manje satelita je dostupno, pogotovo onih koji su blizu horizonta.

LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on August 10, 2015, 08:52:30 am
A ardupilot mogu uzet sa ebaya?
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: vedronebo on August 10, 2015, 08:54:20 am
A ardupilot mogu uzet sa ebaya?

Možeš. Kao i uvijek, pazi da te kinez ne prevari. Gledaj dobro njegov feedback i dalli je prodao nešto u zadnje vrijeme (eBay izbacuje te brojeve automatski).

EDIT: Nije sve tako  crno kod kupnje sa kinezima. Oni jednostavno ne razumiju neke stvari i naprave to nakaradno po svome. To je zbog uštede na materijalu kod proizvodnje, imaju neku svoju računicu da uštede, iako je ta štednja puno puta na pogrešnom mjestu. Gotovo svaki proizvod u elektronici - fali elektrolitski kondenzator za filtriranje DC napona. Čak i tamo gdje i postoji predviđeni kontakt, elektrolit fali.

LP,
milan
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Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on August 10, 2015, 08:57:58 am
Ako uhvatite vrimena ili znate nekog  pouzdanog sa ebaya stavite link za 2.8 ili neki koji vi preporucujete
Hvala puno na odgovoru
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: wirevt on August 10, 2015, 03:35:07 pm
Nije ebay, ali u godinu dana koliko trgujem s njim nikad problema. Sve šalje isti ili drugi dan sa trekingom.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/727847 (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/727847)
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: wars on August 10, 2015, 09:59:41 pm
Nije ebay, ali u godinu dana koliko trgujem s njim nikad problema. Sve šalje isti ili drugi dan sa trekingom.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/727847 (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/727847)
6

potpis.
Od njega uzeo gps antenu, konektore, frame...

sve narudzbe poslane sad pa sad.

Bez ikakve komplikacije.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on August 10, 2015, 10:08:50 pm
Da ali nema u prodaji 2.8 ardupilot
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: wirevt on August 11, 2015, 12:38:59 am
Iskreno ni ne znam razlike između verzija 2.6 i te tzv 2.8. Jedino što sam negdje pročitao je da 2.7 ima bolji 3.3V regulator i to je pod upitnikom jer se APM prestao razvijati davno (Pixhawk ga je naslijedio) tako da iskreno sumljam da ima ikakvih razlika osim možda kozmetičkih - čitaj marketinški trik.
Ja sam svog uzeo sa linka gore prije skoro god dana i dan danas radi odlično, nikad ni jedan jedini problem s njim.
Da ponovo kupujem uzeo bi si onaj mali Mini Pro, na mom mi jedino smeta malo težina koja je cca 40 gr sa kutijicom i možda veličina jer ga nekad nije lako ugurati gdje baš želiš.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: NewLife on September 07, 2015, 12:40:05 pm
Evo dosao mi je ardupilot 2.6 sve pet, delivery je bija 3 tjedna ono standard :)
Nego jel znate gdje da narucim power module?
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: kbelcar on September 07, 2015, 02:16:53 pm
Evo dosao mi je ardupilot 2.6 sve pet, delivery je bija 3 tjedna ono standard :)
Nego jel znate gdje da narucim power module?

Ja uzeo na ebay--- sve radi kako treba :)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252032488458?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/252032488458?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: BPatrik on September 19, 2015, 05:34:25 pm
Koja je razlika između amp na 433 mhz i 915 mhz


Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: wirevt on September 19, 2015, 08:18:22 pm
Osim frekvencije na kojoj radi ama baš nikakva. :)
Uzmi si 433 jer je on predviđen za Europu, na 900Mhz rade neke mobilne mreže pa ta frekv. nije baš legalna za amatersko korištenje.

Ako ikada budeš htjeo preći sa 2.4Ghz na neki LRS tipa DragonLink onda će ti 433 vjerovatno stvarati probleme.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: kbelcar on September 19, 2015, 10:57:46 pm
Ja koristim 3DR radio na 433MHz
Domet mi je nekih 270m, APM2.6 - multirotor

Je'l to normalno, mozda da stavim neke druge (preporucene) postavke?!


LP
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: srepfler on September 20, 2015, 10:32:34 am
3DR kaze oko 500m, korisnici prijavljuju 700-1300.
Rotor inace je problematican za signal u odnosu na avion.


Tu imas zasto je problem s 433.


There was an issue with the 'groundside' USB 433MHz radio where the laptop USB system caused interference with the serial-to-USB converter in the radio that you connect to the laptop.[/size]There are various workarounds using USB hubs etc however I think the most effective is to use two of the serial 'airside' radios which don't have built in USB (you just connect the module to your laptop using an FTDI cable).If you buy the 433 radios from 3DR you will get 2x airside modules and a FTDI cable which should get around the USB interference issue you've been reading about


http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/433-or-915-mhz-telemetry?groupUrl=apmusergroup&groupId=705844%3AGroup%3A394667&id=705844%3ATopic%3A1361564&page=1#comments
[/color]Expected rangeTypical range achieved with the 3DR radios using standard configuration and antenna is around 500m, but the range varies a lot depending on noise sources and antenna setup.
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http://copter.ardupilot.com/wiki/common-3dr-radio-version-2/[/font][/color][/font][/font][/color][/size]
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: BPatrik on September 20, 2015, 10:45:12 am
Je li onda bolje uzet 915 mhz ili 433 mhz.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: srepfler on September 20, 2015, 10:53:42 am
Ako imas orginal 3DR koji ide preko FDTI kabla mozes 433,
900 mozes i klonove.


Ako imas LRS na 433 trebas 900.


Ja koristim LRS i koristio sam 900 bez nekih problema.


Novi crossfire LRS je na 900 pa za taj bi valjao 433.


Za podesavanje oba su dobra, za dalji FPV minimOSD je korisniji.


500mw ide dalje ali je skuplji.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: kbelcar on September 20, 2015, 12:12:40 pm
...ja probao na laptop, probao na tablet - ista stvar, mozda da pomijesam kanale malo!!!

Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: srepfler on September 20, 2015, 12:26:54 pm
Ako spustis brzinu ide dalje ali je sporiji.



Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: kbelcar on September 20, 2015, 12:56:47 pm
Ima li mozda kakva kuharica ili preporuke za settings (mislim nije bas da mi treba - cisto radi testiranja)?
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: srepfler on September 20, 2015, 01:01:41 pm
Tu su objasnjeni parametri


http://copter.ardupilot.com/wiki/common-3dr-radio-advanced-configuration-and-technical-information/ (http://copter.ardupilot.com/wiki/common-3dr-radio-advanced-configuration-and-technical-information/)


na forumu ima savjeta
http://ardupilot.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22 (http://ardupilot.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22)


Bolja antena je mozda najbolje rjesenje.
Title: Odg: Amp 2.6 ArduPilot
Post by: kbelcar on September 20, 2015, 01:04:25 pm
Odlicno"Srepfler"....

proucit cu to malo

lp