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RC Modeli => Helikopteri => Topic started by: Wespen on October 11, 2009, 08:52:24 pm

Title: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: Wespen on October 11, 2009, 08:52:24 pm
Vidim da vas dosta skica HK450 sa HCa.
Dakle evo sto vam sve treba.

Znaci pod 1 - helic
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8467 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8467)

Za letjeti vam jos fali slijedece:
servaci za cikliku - 3 kom / 9 grama, ne sporiji od 0.16s i ne manje od 1.5 kg/cm
jeftinija varijanta: HXT900 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=662) (uzmite 5 komada, da ne mjenjate getribe. Manje posla staviti novi servo)
skuplja varijanta: Hitec 65MG (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9816) ili Ino-Lab 202MG (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5709)
vjerovatno ce raditi i ostali 9 gramski servaci, preporuka je metalna getriba

Repni servo - 9 do 20grama (micro/mini), ne sporiji od 0.09s
jeftina varijanta: GWS Naro (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=4370)
skuplja varijanta: HGD 201 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5195)

Žiro
jeftina varijanta: Assan Ga-410 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7647&Product_Name=Assan_GA-410_Tail_Lock_Gyro_)
srednje skupa: Assan Ga-510 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8951)
najbolja: Spartan ds760 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10061)

Motor:
ok varijanta: Turnigy 2836 3700kv
(http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8137)bolja varijanta: TP 2415-7 3850kv (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8137) (ovog sam ja imao, dok jos nije bilo Typhoon varijante)
jos bolja varijanta: Turnigy Typhoon 3550kv (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9021&Product_Name=Turnigy_Typhoon_2215H_Brushless_450-Size_Heli_Motor_3550kv)

Regler (bitno je da ima "soft start" da se ne mucite sa poderanim zupcanicima):
jeftina varijanta: Hobby King SS heli 50A (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10013)
skuplja varijanta: Turnigy Plush 40A (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=2165) (nigdje ne vidim da ima soft start, ali nema boljeg)

Baterije:
3S 2200 mAh, 25C ili vise.
Imate ogromni izbor na HC, uzmite one koje su najjeftinije, a da su in stock.

Nemojte zaboraviti pinion ovdje (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8574), ne dodje sa kitom

Rezervni dijelovi (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=297) za prvi crash:
Glavne ruke / Main blade holder
osovina
spindle
repni boom
glavni zupcanik

Zgodan upgrade kada dodje "u štok"
CNC main rotor upgrade (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9790)

I za kraj.... ta da... ljepsa kabina
Fiberglas canopy for Trex-450 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=325)
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: mdrazic on November 16, 2009, 10:40:11 pm
Ovi bolesni kinezi su izbacili full metal verziju za oko 330 kuna s dostavom pa ako vas stanovita J.P. ne kastrira evo navalite:

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10413 (http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10413)
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: andrej on January 02, 2011, 07:08:38 pm
predobar post
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: andrej on January 03, 2011, 02:34:10 am
jel bi ovi svi djelovi odgovarali na hk 450 pro belt drive kitu ?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10902 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10902)
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: Wespen on January 03, 2011, 12:44:38 pm
Naravno... a i prvi post bi trebalo malo updejtati.

Sada se i izbor na HK prosirio :)
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: andrej on January 03, 2011, 04:36:11 pm
pa što se ćeka   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: lora on January 05, 2011, 06:44:32 pm
Sorry na dosadi Wespen, ali može li slična pomoć za HK-500 GT setup za početnike? Hvala unaprijed svima koji su voljni pomoći
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: Wespen on January 05, 2011, 09:03:35 pm
http://www.flyfreak.net/helikopteri/elektronika-za-helice-po-klasama/ (http://www.flyfreak.net/helikopteri/elektronika-za-helice-po-klasama/)
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: lora on January 06, 2011, 09:13:32 am
Hvala puno!!!!!!!!
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: Niksa on January 08, 2011, 09:32:15 am
Evo kome treba kako se sve to sastavlja

VIDEO
http://www.giantcod.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2690&p=9764#p9764 (http://www.giantcod.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2690&p=9764#p9764)

TEKST i SLIKE
http://www.giantcod.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2688 (http://www.giantcod.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2688)
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: andrej on January 08, 2011, 02:53:58 pm
evo imam jedno pitanje- hocu li trebati moci programirati regler na hk 450(prvom heliću) jer ovaj hobby kingov nema tu mogucnost ? ili je to programiranje reglera za malo bolje letače?
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: Wespen on January 08, 2011, 07:38:47 pm
Moras isprogramirati, ako se moze naravno.
Barem soft start, low cutoff i throttle range..
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: andrej on January 08, 2011, 08:50:42 pm
znaci onda ovaj otpada ?
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: Anto on January 09, 2011, 05:35:29 pm
evo imam jedno pitanje- hocu li trebati moci programirati regler na hk 450(prvom heliću) jer ovaj hobby kingov nema tu mogucnost ? ili je to programiranje reglera za malo bolje letače?

Ako misliš na onaj koji je Wespen naveo ima programiranje (mislim da skoro svaki ima neki dio za programiranje)

User Programming options:
 Battery setting
 Throttle Range
 Brake setting 4 options:
 Direction and Cutoff Type
 Timing Mode Setting: 1 / 7 / 15 / 30
 PWM setting: 8K/16K
 Governor mode Soft start

i manual:  http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/forum/uploads/56/Heli_ESC_Advance_50A_above_July1.pdf (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/forum/uploads/56/Heli_ESC_Advance_50A_above_July1.pdf)

...neznam čemu tolika panika ::)
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: andrej on January 09, 2011, 09:22:03 pm
da tak piše al 90 % komentara na taj regler je da krivo piše i da se uopce nemoze programirat...
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: Anto on January 09, 2011, 09:29:51 pm
onda si sigurno vidio da u jednom komentaru piše da je original manual pogrešan i da ovaj iznad pravi  8)
Title: Odg: HK450 - setup za pocetnike
Post by: andrej on January 09, 2011, 09:53:48 pm
hahhahhah moj bed..aj uzet cu taj regler a ak nece valjat ti mi placas 2% njegove cjene kao odštetu  :D :D :D