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Reply #15
nije za acro i 3D??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

kupi ko novi gu-365?  :(


 

Odg: Flybarless novosti za proljece

Reply #17
Flybar je za bokce...a i sta ce tebi to kad ne znas letjet....sta laprdas..... :P :D




Odg: Flybarless novosti za proljece

Reply #21
Sve je to isto.... Axiom, SJGD i Turnigy.

Samo druga naljepnica.
Posljednji model:
Sin V1: tezina: 7500 g, raspon: 70 cm, gorivo:mlijeko, kapacitet rezervoara: sve veci, izdrzljivost: 0-24

Odg: Flybarless novosti za proljece

Reply #22
I cijena ...
Outrage Fusion 50
Futaba T14SG

Odg: Flybarless novosti za proljece

Reply #23
Evo misljene od MrMel-a

I've completed my tests on the BeastX for now, here is my feeling about   it.
First of all I would like to tell how I done testing, I flew 8   packs where breaking in with a flight in the middle with my "known" heli   (second L600 which is my normal flying machine) as I know the mind   adapt very fast it's easy to miss stuff.
My "known" setup is same   mechanical setup with different FBL Solution, otherwise identical.
I   test one type of move each time, tweaking and trying it again and   disregard other things while doing that.
I did try two different   mounting tapes, no big difference between them.
I pushed it hard   today


UPDATE: My initial review   reflected the best I could get with "standard setup", it turned out I   couldn't really get it that good without changing hardware (never tested   that though), however, in conjunction with a little crude beta program   that allowed me to tweak P/I of the Tail and Cyclic I could circumvent   the need to change any hardware, and to get it flying good.


Setup:   Very easy but still versatile, will be even more so with a English   manual (which is out now)

Spoolup: I suggest slight   negative pitch since the heli can start to drift on the ground due to   ground vibrations, could throw off any newcomers.

Hovering:   I tested from low -> high gain, too low gain and it starts to drift,   with good gain it hovers hands off.

Forward flight:   Tracks perfectly, total effortless.

Fast forward flight:   No problem in FFF, big loops without issue, tracks perfectly through it,   Tail wag comes in FFF if your tail gain is too high (see more under   tail)

Backward flight (FF and FFF and tailslides): No   issues with the tail.

Stationary piros: Perfectly level,   no issues.

Rolls/Flips: Rolls and flips nicely, very very   slight "going out of track/in track" on flips.

Tictocs: a   little wobbly elevator tic tocs (tested with various gains), aileron tic   tocs is very nice and perfectly inline

Rainbows:   Effortless, sometimes a little wobble on elevator axis, tail struggles a   bit at pitch changes.

Tail:
 - Tail struggles a bit   (compared to what i'm used to) with hard pitch changes it's kicking out.
This   is tweak'ble in the system in the future.
 - Piro consistency in   no-wind and slow movement is OK, piro consistency in higher wind/FFF was   not good with "easy setup settings", very much whipping (almost to a   point of stop), with additional tweaking of I-gain I could get this   to a point of "good" in high wind situations, so it will be fixable.


Cyclic:
   - Sportflying:
  Cyclic feels good, you tweak the Main gain to get   distinct stops.
 - Response,  Secondary pot gives you adjustment from   VERY soft to very distinct control


- 3D flight -   Updated (with higher I-Gain on the cyclic and tweaked tail for better   piro consistency) :

  - Piro funnels: No problem   performing both with and without reversals.

  - Piro in FFF:   Stays on Track (piro optimization working)

For the following   moves, Depending on your servos you might need to tweak I-Gain for good   performance.

  - Piro rainbows: No problem.

  -   Piro tictocs: Still a bit hard to get nice, perhaps more I-Gain is   the answer but mine was fairly ok.

  - Piro flips: You   need to either learn or tweak your gain to get good flow (much dependent   on blades used), but in general no biggie.

  - Piro loops:   with the improved tail and cyclic, no issues..

Overall, for   sportflying or even 3D where there is no piro maneuvers I say its good,   but for 3D with piro moves, at least on my machine, I NEEDED to tweak   the P/I relationship.

This is my feel, from the information that   is known as of today (with updated system), this is a new system, so it   might be that as time go by more info will emerge.

I cannot say   if this is the "right" system for you, but with above information you at   least see my view on it.
Posljednji model:
Sin V1: tezina: 7500 g, raspon: 70 cm, gorivo:mlijeko, kapacitet rezervoara: sve veci, izdrzljivost: 0-24

Odg: Flybarless novosti za proljece

Reply #24
Molim moderatora da piše na Hrvatskom jer bi i drugi kolege modelari  voljeli znati o kakvoj jedrilici se radi !
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